So lets roll with this! I mean, its the flattest shooting cartridge around, but you took a huge bump in recoil over the 300 win mag or even 270 WSM for 41 more usable yards of MPBR. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. Thanks, 26 Nosler 127 gr LRX 3602 Ft./Sec. With its rebated rim and 1/2-inch diameter at the base, it is essentially a longer version of the 6.5284 Norma; ballistically equivalent to the .264 Winchester Magnum. The .25-06 is fast, shoots flat at 200 yards, and has just a 6.5-inch drop at 300 yards. Hello Jim, Just saying, excellent job to tell the nature of all calibers for hunting from 100 to 700 yards for medium game. Why? Well, nothing will save you if you mistakenly range a deer at 700 yards thats really at 800. Do you have any of the data on the weight of the bullets, the brand of the bullets, the BC, any of the information related to the data youre posting? This means we can first determine the fastest cartridge in each caliber, then compare it against the fastest in others. If it makes you feel better to hate the 6.5 Creedmoor, go ahead. If you had to choose one cartridge to hunt with for the rest of your life, you could do a whole lot worse than the .30-06 Springfield. I know its a great round, but its by a long shot the best selling rifle chambering of the last several years. Not a lot of difference in drops between the cartridges though; you need accurate yardage readings to get your drop correct. A flat shooting cartridge matters. But lets take a quick look at a historically popular flat-shooting cartridge, the .270 Winchester. Yet it has proven again and again that it will deliver at distance. The best long-range cartridges are those that are flat shooting, feature aerodynamic projectiles and have enough power to go the distance. I'm trying to find the best round from the muzzle to 500yds as far as trajectory. Beyond 1000 yards they use either the 338 Lapua or the 50 BMG. Warm greetings from S.W. Preferred Caliber For 500 To 1,000 Yards And Beyond: 6.5 Creedmoor Preferred Rifle And Optic: A Rainier Arms precision rifle chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor and enhanced by H&H Precision with an Orias chassis from Killer Innovations. All in all, here are six bonus cartridge, all highly capable of reaching way out there. Nonetheless, 7mm bullets can be extremely aerodynamic and, as legendary elephant hunter Karamojo Bell proved, effective on even the largest animals. No, this is merely a fun exercise in ferreting out the cartridge/bullet combination that shoots the flattest at reasonable hunting distance with a bit of extreme range (1,000 yards) thrown in for spice. That kind of long-range accuracy comes at a hefty price with this model starting at $11,700 from the manufacturer. If you like the idea of a six-five for going long, but hate the Creed and want something a bit different, the 6.5-284 Norma is the way to go. For serious shooters, thats a non-starter. Your email address will not be published. Why is the 7 MM Ultra Mag also called the 7RUM not on your lists? Before we check that out, lets give a nod to the 240 Wby. rating) driven more slowly. That's why the three best rifles we have sorted have a 500-yard impact range below 40''. Excellent work!! Hornady's Precision Hunter 145-grain ELD-X at 2,950 fps is the flattest-shooting .270 Winchester load. Been there done that, so Im not playing holier-than-thou. Federal Premium, 130-grain Terminal Ascent, .308 Winchester will win no ballistic awards. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Surprisingly, even with all the extra recoil and muzzle blast, this cartridge will not shoot any flatter than most 6.5s. 10 Things We All Hate About flattest shooting caliber to 500 yards Yash June 15, 2021 57 views 3 minute read This is the one in the middle, the flattest shooting caliber to 500 yards. The 300 Win Mag is definitely on the list. Impeccable analysis here. Great chart, I appreciate all your work on this. 270 and 30-06 carry enough power out to 700 yards, 7mm pulls a bit further, and 300 win mag pulls a bit further still. Deciding on the three best flat-shooting cartridges does not come down simply to one statistic, but a combination of all the factors inherent to a cartridge. Just want to extend my sincere gratitude to you for all of the hard work, time, and incredible effort that you put into this, and so many other endeavors that you have undertaken to give us so much useful information and education, and doing so in a carefully detailed and professional manner! Since this article originally went live, several excellent long-range big-game cartridges have it the market. To be fair to the 30-378, itmurders everything else for flatness way out there, staying feet above most other cartridges and carrying enough energy to take a deer at just over 1000 yards. MPBR with a 150-grain spire point from a 308 Winchester might extend to 317 yards on an 8-inch target while a 300 RUM might push that same bullet to 373 yards. At 600 yards, most common cartridges are running out of juice to take down larger game like Elk or Moose, though the 300 win mag/300 WSM still have a bit left in the tank. Despite its relatively low B.C. 223 Wylde chambered, 20" barreled rifle. Normas 180-grain BondStrike Extreme at 3,084 fps is new and very flat-shooting. . So what can we learn from these numbers? cleric; Jan 28, 2023; Bolt Action Rifles ; Replies 13 Views 475. Both are 338-378 Wby. Most fall close to the .22 caliber bullet range, and can dip down to .17 caliber and up to .264 (6.5 mm). I would like to see a chart on down range energy. Thoughts on this? projectile that you might crown that one King, especially since that 100-grain sounds a bit more reasonable for deer-sized game. numbers which are not quite as accurate as G7 numbers in predicting trajectories of todays wildly long, sleek bullets. But what are the flattest shooting rifle cartridges? I've been looking at the .257 weatherby that drops about 34" with a 100gr bullet at 500 yards and the .22-250 is another at around 36" with a 50gr bullet. A popular western big-game cartridge, the 7mm Magnum doubles as an excellent tool for long-range target shooting. Now, one manufacturer specializes in fast, powerful, ridiculous cartridges, and thats Weatherby. Something like a 7mm Ultramag shooting a 120 TTSX would be pretty flat shooting to 500. Indeed, some deer also live in places where a 50-yard shot is much more likely than a 500-yard shot. Great work mate including .22LR what a hoot (Incoming!) Since nearly all long-distance shooters today use a laser rangefinder, does it even matter which cartridges shoot the flattest? . I have a 27 3/4" barrel 264 Win mag that shoots 130 Accubonds 3350 fps with Retumbo. It makes for easy reading in an \all in one place\ comparison, rather than spending time trying to find this data all over the internet. However, I fully admit that that a flat shooting cartridge is not nearly as important as a cartridge which is resistant to wind deflection. This is about an alternative to a .308 for those snipers who will likely never even see a 100-yard deployment and do not need the overpenetration or down range effect. With the popularity of this cartridge due to America's favorite rifle, the AR15, more and more people are stretching the . Appropriate hunting bullets may not reach these levels of B.C. Mag. The round is on the cusp of energy at 300 yards, but it is a favorite among short to mid-distance deer hunters. At 300 yards it has dropped around 13 inches, and at 500 yards it's just under 60 inches (5 feet). My name is Steve and I have just viewed your video on the Flattest Shooting Cartridges. On the other hand, wind speed and direction are inconsistent. Pronghorn hunters have driven the search for flatter shooting cartridges for a long time. The caveat here is that fastest becomes a bit murky. It gives you an MPBR of 336 yards. He has managed multiple gun ranges, and has hunted around the world. Great information! And is it fair to include Risky Ralphs overstuffed, compressed-powder loads that exceed the highest handloading guides top loads by 400 fps and leave primers looking as if theyd been squashed on a train track? Nosler Trophy Grade with a 150-grain Nosler AccuBond Long Range at 3300 fps. The rifle would be used for game to 600 yards (self imposed limit) up to the occasional Elk. The 6.5 PRC can remain supersonic out beyond 1,600 yards or so, but ammunition options are limited. Bullet selection means alot. It would help one decide on if a cartilage was up to a specific task and if one would be willing to take the kick. Our blog and video on the Flattest Shooting Cartridge Ever! 3. This is the allure and benefit of a flat shooting bullet. Often theyre inflated. But dont waste your time trying to convince us a slower cartridge in any caliber can shooter flatter than the ones weve identified as category leaders. That's pretty dang flat. If you dont have good range finding equipment, youre hooped either way; humans will have extreme difficulty judging 700 from 725 without physical land markers or other range finding signs. However, the .50BMG bullet will reach the target with 143 less drop than the 6.5 Creedmoor, because it has more mass which leads to a higher BC, and that higher BC given the same velocity, makes it slow down less during flight. This old timer remains a phenomenon, flat-shooting and effective. The 300WM with the 210 VLDs at 2950fps is pretty good also. For the Top 5 you have listed, what manufacturers offer a complete rifle in those calibers? I too am a huge fan of Ron Spomer. You can compare these numbers with your favorite cartridge using Backfires own table of flat shooting cartridges and you will see that the numbers indicated are in the absolute upper tiers. But, as an extreme range competition shooter recently told me, the number of cold barrel, first round hits he sees at 1,000 yards in competition is well below 50%. We are not going to include here the esoteric military sniping rounds engineered for 1,000 yards, 2,000 yards, even 3,000 yards. Muzzle velocity certainly makes a difference in how fast the bullet reaches the target, but it is by no means the only factor to consider. . Its like a shorter, beltless version of the .300 Winchester Magnum. With todays ammunition, its even better. Top muzzle velocities with the same combination of powder, primer, and bullet can vary by 100 to 200 fps. The 6.5 Creedmoor will remain supersonic out to 1,400 yards and is quickly becoming the most popular long-range, big-game cartridge in the world. More hunters should get to know this fantastic round. Like the 26 Nosler, the 28 is based on the 404 Jeffery case and will remain supersonic out past 1,750 yards. Weatherbys What caliber rifle shoots the flattest? If you are looking for the flattest shooting caliber to 500 yards, you should read anything else. Though that shot didn't take advantage of the 7mm Mag's flat trajectory, it convinced me of the cartridge's superior qualities. Most common calibers are just fine for regular range shots under 300 yards. Hunters and shooters should also know that wind deflection of bullets is a more challenging part of hitting what you shoot at than is drop. At A Glance: Our Top 5 Picks For Long Range Calibers in 2022 Best for Beginners: 5.56mm/.223 Remington Minimal Recoil: 224 Valkyrie Best for Long Range: 243 Winchester Best for Seasoned Shooters: 6mm Creedmoor Best Value: 6.5mm Grendel To even things out, Ive zerod all cartridges at 100, drops are listed in feet and cartridges that fell below 1000 ft-lbs didnt get past the next 100 yard clip. Ive posted your article on my wildlife and hunting group on FB. Take a look at the MPBR column and note how close they all are. It is an ideal choice for deer-sized game in open country, and a fine choice for mountain game. I see there are some others like 300Win mag as well and thats a very popular cartage so it should be there as well I would think. Do we compare the fastest factory loads or top end handloads from select handloading manuals? Up until that time, there had only really been two .277-caliber hunting cartridgesthe .270 Winchester and the .270 Weatherbyso the .270 WSM was almost immediately popular. Whether or not thats true, my own success rate at 1,000 yards informs me to always stalk closer if I can and to forego shots at any distance unless Im supremely confident I can make them. http://www.hornady.com/ballistics-resource/ballistics-calculator, 338 Lapua with a 300 grain projectile (you can run 250s in the Lapua as well, but most run a 300). So dont assume that youll be shooting the worlds flattest rifle cartridge and bullet until youve verified your MV and bullet B.C. (For anyone who gets worked up about the fact that the .30/06 isnt on this list, feel free to swap it with this one, as long as you dont mind the extra kick. [wd_leadmagnet type="dressing"] There are EXCEPTIONS to almost EVERYTHING with the huge wide range of ballistic specs due to EXCEPTIONAL things people/companies do with cartridge loads these days, but the article was referencing the NORMS for these rifles, not the EXCEPTIONS based on unusual or exotic cartridges a FEW people will use. The goal with the 6 mm ARC was to provide the flattest-shooting cartridge compatible with an AR-15. Enjoying many of your video\s whilst stuck in lockdown. Mag. Wondering if anyone can find anything flatter within that range, suitable to kill a whitetail deer with? 260 Rem After Weatherbys 6.5-300 Magnum did not win as many hearts and minds as theyd hoped, Weatherby rethought the 6.5mm cartridge and developed the 6.5 RPM (Rebated Precision Magnum). 30-378 weatherby (214). The Government .45-70 can give you the perfect hunting experience as it is one of the top calibers used by hunters. Really enjoy your youtube channel. Beyond 600 or 800 yards, however, the efficiency of the high B.C. I love your work and what you share with us. My father has been shooting a 6.5300 wby we had made for him in the early 80s and it was only limited by bullet construction. Federals EDGE TLR .270 Winchester is another outstanding option. Thats equal magnitude to 200fps less flatness! bullet 12 inches at 500 yards, a low B.C. It is a flat shooting cartridge, able to hit a target at 300 yards with negligible hold over. The .22-250 is accurate, fast and delivers devastating performance at long ranges. (A bullet far from optimum for shooting elk.) These rifles can hardly be considered to be flat shooting. .25-06 AI with a Berger 115 VLD that's moving 3,600 fps That should be pretty close to flat. The RPM does not have a belt or the customary Weatherby radiused shoulder, and it was designed to go with an ultra-light hunting rifle. Know your trajectory curve and nail the shot distance with a range finder and you can offset huge rates of drop. Shooters have no real idea how much drop a bullet has at long ranges like 1500 yards. Pretty impressive for a low B.C., 55-grain bullet. Jim, .45-70 shoots like a Rainbow compared to even a Win 30-30. It takes a lot of practice to learn the aim point to bring the rifle on target. So it Im guessing to summarise it doesnt really matter what you shoot as long as you know distance to target & your maths I hope this report clears up some trajectory confusion and perhaps settles some old arguments. Even the heaviest Weatherby factory load (120-grain Partition) leaves the muzzle at 3,305 feet per second and retains 1,221 foot-pounds of energy at 500 yards. Ive included different bullet weights/BCs for most rounds to illustrate how BC changes drop at longer ranges. It seems a bit odd to consider a .22-caliber cartridge of any design suitable for long-range hunting of even smallish big game. For example, the .50BMG and the 6.5 Creedmoor both launch bullets at approximately the same muzzle velocity of 2,700fps. Have fun hunting! He just never made it official. All three cartridges also offer ample case capacity, allowing enough powder to send bullets at drag-defying velocities. What about the guy who wants to go long with his AR-15? Even though high-BC .30-caliber bullets need to be heavy and pushed hard to shoot flat, many American hunters love them enough to tolerate the recoil. Most common calibers are just fine for regular range shots under 300 yards. Now, the .280 AI is finally a SAAMI-approved cartridge, and while ammunition options are sparse, its performance is right there with the 7mm Remington Magnum. The muzzle velocity is a plus in windy conditions, with the bullet arriving on target with minimal drift. Always amazing to me its not even on those lists. Every rifle is different. While that incredibly fast 6.5-300 Wby. Considered by many to be the optimum long-range, large-game cartridge, the .300 Winchester Magnum has proven itself worldwide. Check out ShootersCalculator.com By Adriel flat-shooting, and light recoiling cartridge was extremely effective on deer-sized game. That should be pretty close to flat. For bigger game, I could easily hunt with either the 240 or 6.5-300 Weatherbys. Not many of us can afford the ammo, let alone the rifles and scopes that chamber it, in such calibers as 375 CheyTac, 408 CheyTac, or 416 Barrett. A 30-06 will take any game on the NA Continent. What caliber rifle shoots the farthest? Yeah, yeah, I know theyre cartridges and not calibers, but lots of people call them calibers so I thought Id roll with it. Its drop at 1,000 yards is 330.30 and at 500 yards its drop is 50.00. Thanks for the chart for bullet drop but for Big Game Hunting I would rather see the down range energy. Accuracy, knowledge of your rifle and its drops at different ranges, and knowledge of the conditions will dictate your very long range shots. The 26 and 28 Nosler as well as the 6.5300 Weatherby Magnum all utilize heavy for caliber bullets with high ballistic coefficients that are stabilized by barrels with fast twist rates. The ballistics coefficient of the bullet (a formula which considers the mass, diameter, and aerodynamic drag of a bullet to understand its ability to fight wind and continue on its path) greatly impacts time of flight because it keeps the bullet from slowing down due to inefficiency of flight. This lets you focus on having only one caliber to maintain. rating, that 100-grain bullet is hanging in there. Want to run your own ballistics numbers? I still shoot a .270 caliber cartridge and the same 150gr bullet, but with a 3gr powder charge boost. These cartridges all drop less than 255 at 1,000 yards. Thats comparing apples to apples with the others up above, using a 6 vitals zone. 6.5-300 WBY (-204) Developed form the military, Winchester . Its really tough to spot impacts with that much recoil, and thats becoming increasingly important for shooters. I normally go for high BC and heavy for cal but one place I do run light is I'll shoot a Barnes 110 TTSX 3600 fps in my 270 WSM, for light game and coyotes it's very effective! BUCK DOYLE Preferred Caliber For 500 To 1,000 Yards And Beyond: .260 Remington (130-grain Berger AR Hybrid OTM . How about our drops on the cartridges that made it? My grandkids have a poem for this photo: Cartridge cartridge on the table, choose the flattest if youre able. I was surprised the 308 warbird was not included with the 208gr or 212gr bullet. bullet twice that far. So I find it strange you dont have it on any of the lists from what I have seen. Based on the old .404 Jeffery case, its the same length as the .30/06, which means it works in standard-length actions. bullets at faster speeds allows the projectile to get to the target sooner, minimizing the amount of time all three forces have to affect the bullets trajectory. I love that you have gone above and beyond here and I see tremendous value in this knowledge. But its so close to the 6.5-300 Wby. I already have a Swarovski Z6 3-18 bt. Therefore the .17 Remington is the round for you. This cartridge is the .270 GIBBS and is based on the 30.06 case with the shoulder moved forward and at a 35 degree angle. I know it is very uncommonly talked about. Be aware that many of these bullets could have been target bullets. If the 300 RUM surprises you, know that it surprised me, too. Brownings 175-grain Sierra Tipped GameKing load has an advertised muzzle velocity of 2835 fps and a very high ballistic coefficient. Most often you just have to buy a Weatherby rifle to get one, and while that used to be an expensive proposition, its not anymore. There's currently no better option for the AR-15 when the range extends much past 500 yards. The smaller calibers drop like a rock past 500 yards. If there was ever a cult cartridge, the .280 Ackley Improved is it. The company set out to push the limits with this thing, designing it as a flat-shooting 6.5mm cartridge with performance capable of taking full advantage of the newest long-range shooting reticles used in today's scopes. For example, A 7 SAUM, 280 AI and 7 Rem Mag. Even at 500 yards the Hornady 225 SST is traveling over 2,000 fps and carrying over 2,000 ft/lbs of energy. Should you have other helpful info, please send it to me by email: [emailprotected]. Dear James But as with the 6.5 PRC, there are not a lot of factory-ammo options to choose from. Another issue is recoil. At 500 yards . 6.5mm calibers What I have come up with is the .270 Weatherby Magnum with a 135gr Sierra Matchking and 7828. The Liberty Ammunition .308 Win. The 6 mm ARC flattens the curve, and as a 2020 introduction, it could be nicknamed the "Corona Cartridge." . Here we go! What a great tool that you have built. Sign up for Field & Streams newsletter to receive the latest and greatest gear reviews and expert hunting and fishing advice. Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. Just wondering where the 300 win mag ends up? Good work mate. Like the 6.5 Creedmoor, the .280 Ackley Improved can remain supersonic out to 1,400 yards. Death in the Long Grass: A Big Game Hunter's Adventures in the African Bush .by Peter H. Capstick, Dino Paravano, Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders (Volume 1) Paperback, The Complete Guide to Hunting, Butchering, and Cooking Wild Game: Volume 1: Big Game, Horn of the Hunter: The Story of an African Safari Kindle Edition, Use Enough Gun: On Hunting Big Game Hardcover, Pheasant, Quail, Cottontail: Upland Birds and Small Game from Field to Feast Hardcover March 1, 2018, The Easy Venison Cookbook: 60 Simple Recipes for Deer, Elk, and Moose Kindle Edition. The .25-06 is the flattest shooting, hardest hitting, lowest recoiling cartridge available. A .270 caliber rifle loaded with a 130 or a 140 grain bullets will drop respectively 33 and 35 inches with each bullet have over 1400 lbs. But if you can shoot this cartridge well, with its supersonic speed out beyond 1,650 yards, youre just about unstoppable at distance, and there are lots of factory loads and riflesaffordable and expensiveto choose from. But there is a big contender missing I think. Its biggest disadvantage, in some people's opinion, is .25 caliber bullets have low BCs. What a gentleman. Your email address will not be published. When you havent time to engage a laser rangefinder, knowing you can reach the kill zone with a dead-center hold at any distance out to 373 yards is pretty comforting. bullet faster than did the larger volume 30-378 Wby. due to its larger diameter which increases drag. Those, then, are my conclusions. Id consider a base of: Among these cartridges, the 25-06 offers the highest MPBR (Mean Point Blank Range) or the max distance that you can adjust a scope to and be +-3 with the most common bullet weights per caliber. What bullet weight did you select for the .270 Winchester? First, some boundaries. Misjudging a 5mph crosswind as 8mph will make a 5.3 difference at 500yd with my favorite varmint load (BC0.400/MV3,400). Again, I, as well as so very many other folks Im certain, am very grateful! Montana! Once again great effort appreciated. I blog often and I truly appreciate your content. Check out their concise ballistics charts. From an external ballistics standpoint, it cannot compete with any of the cartridges on this list, but in the field where it matters, it works wonders, and only the 6.5 Creedmoor has less recoil. I'm not a huge fan of basing my decisions on bullet energy. If youre after critters deer-size and up, the field is dominated by .30-caliber, 6.5mm, and 7mm cartridges, with the best long-range options remaining supersonic out to at least 1,400 yards. Its muzzle velocity is 1880 fps, and muzzle energy is 2355 ft. lbs. Its not all hype. .468 BC, 1. Fast and flat shooting b#%ds. Run those numbers on JBM. And for all of you whove just learned your flat shooting champion really isnt, sorry. (-200) With a muzzle velocity faster than 3000 fps, it offers great external and terminal ballistics. If youre planning on buying a gun to shoot long range shots this is recommended reading. Shooting a 180-grain bullet (.507 G1 BC) at 2,960 fps and sighted in 1.5 inches high at 100 yards, the .300 Win. Its just physics. But again, that just my opinion. Also look at Federal Premiums 180-grain Nosler AccuBond offering at 2,960 fps. Despite its relatively low B.C. +Nick Strother, he TOLD you right up front he was only including cartridges that can be found chambered in most any rifle. This is not just a product of the .27 caliber bullet and its ballistic coefficient numbers. Don't want it too heavy. Share: Facebook Twitter WhatsApp Email Share Link. 1 Normal load using the most popular factory ammo, one heavy load for each, one light load. No howitzers or tanks.). Zeroing for 100 yards or farther will change drop significantly. Also know that not all manufacturer-claimed B.C. At 150 yards the target is a 6 inch hole and the gong is behind it. Another and even better option for reaching out to a big game animal with an AR15 is the 6.5 Grendel. . The spin rate helps to stabilize the projectile along its path, cut through drag and higher case capacities give the projectile more velocity thus delivering the bullet to the target more quickly.
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